tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12590114.post112038914596473870..comments2023-10-05T00:25:05.854+13:00Comments on A Pilgrim Soul: Dave DobbynSharynhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13756996252789950326noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12590114.post-1120474094045021362005-07-04T22:48:00.000+12:002005-07-04T22:48:00.000+12:00I get it Sharyn, good thoughts. Also good thought...I get it Sharyn, good thoughts. <BR/><BR/>Also good thoughts Iain.A. J. Chesswashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04266452896846772225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12590114.post-1120435923893271342005-07-04T12:12:00.000+12:002005-07-04T12:12:00.000+12:00We believe that the world is not our home - we are...<I>We believe that the world is not our home - we are just apassing through. What happens on earth, therefore, only really has value as it pertains or is important in heaven.</I><BR/><BR/>I believe the world is my home.<BR/>I believe that God is going to restore humanity and all of creation, that has been groaning for renewal since the Fall.<BR/><BR/>I believe that Revelation 21(?) shows the imagery of the New Jerusalem descending to earth. I believe that the numerical symbolism of this city, a perfect square the size that some ancient people believed was the size of the whole earth, shows a new holy of holies that brings all of Creation into it. It shows God and creation together, not a small separated pocket of perfection shut off from the rest of us.<BR/><BR/>I know that you don't indicate this particular conclusion from what you say, but people use the "just passing through" argument to say that nothing matters, that poor don't matter, that our actions don't matter (since it's all up to God), that being a good steward of the environment doesn't matter (since it's all being "burnt up").<BR/><BR/>To summarize, if we are going to live forever then eternity starts <I>NOW</I>, not later ('death' is a continuing not a beginning).<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, I totally agree with your comment about poor being the fault of the Rich. If I have two of what you have none of, and watches you die for lack of it, then there should be little doubt that I had a part of your death.<BR/><BR/>One thing I pointed out to Frank, when I saw Live8 with him and Rhett, was that helping the generic poor of Africa will only go so far when we still have examples of richer countries with extremely poor and extremely rich living side-by-side. Those countries don't suffer for lack of money, they suffer for lack of fair and proper "distribution" (to risk using a word that the anti-marxist police will lynch me for).Iainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11098216305649347619noreply@blogger.com